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--- talk:proposals:enton_abuse [2014/02/01 22:32]
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 Anyway, your accusations of Enton as maliciously aiding Khaldun and even going as far as manipulating the log to clear them of guilt is the kind of bullshit I'd expect to hear from the likes of Kovio, but not from you. Nevermind that Enton doesn't have any particular relations with Shako or his subordinates, he didn't roll back the damage in the area until a few days ago (I visited it on the day after the battle because I heard palin had triggered some TNT at the sugarcane farm, but couldn't find any from afar).\\
 Your campaign of baseless slander is pretty unsightly. Enton has no motive, you have no proof. t. P.P.A.
+>Okay, so palin's TNT placement where Enton appeared becoming an "unspecified action" while the one he didn't see remaining is magic. Logs and screenshots aren't evidence. Bans tripling to a month while Shako's friend receives no ban shows no bias. Thanks for clearing this up.  --- //[[hinorashi@gmail.com|hino]] 2014/02/01 23:43//
+>>Logblock is generally buggy. Enton isn't as autistic as others are here—I didn't know about this bug, and I doubt he knew about it either, or kept it secret. Rolling back the TNT damage is his duty as a mod, if an unforeseen consequence of that is the logs glitching up, it's a far cry to accuse him of malicious intent. Why would he do that anyway? To protect palin, some new player only Shako has ever meaningfully interacted with, by removing evidence for retaliatory griebing?\\
+His tripling of your bans I know about. I disagree with it, since bullshitting and slander has never been punishable on this server, but I can understand it from a subjective perspective. t. P.P.A.
+====vlad:====
+enton stop banning people from the wiki for things other than spam or censoring.
+>This isn't censorship, although it might give someone a wrong impression, but I simply cannot let this go ahead. You cannot observe or investigate something that **DEFINITELY COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED**. Someone who has been proven wrong in any regard so many times shouldn't have the right to continue posting here. It's destroying my reputation, hoping there will be enough idiots (or even normal players) to believe this shit. You really can't be that ignorant.
+>Agreeing upon observing me during battles would already imply that I did something wrong or even massively abused my powers. This is clearly not the case, so I'm basically defending myself against lies. As I said many times: I'm tolerant when it comes to silly "MOD ABUSE" spam, but this is just outrageous and beyond any reason and shall be punished. --- //Enton 2014/02/02 14:59//
+As far as the TNT logblock stuff goes, that plugin is glitchy as shit, as anyone who has used it to any degree knows.  That alone isn't really evidence of anything, who the fuck knows what that error means.  I don't really see any evidence that enton overstepped his authority as a mod that isn't just circumstantial.
+My official recommendation for the Politburo's statement:\\
+[No action taken against Enton, but a reminder that mods should act reasonably and responsibly]
+>[No action taken against Enton, but a reminder that mods should act reasonably and responsibly]
+>>I second that. --- //[[muh.dick@ur.mom|Rosenmann]] 2014/02/02 11:29//
+All mods are advised to stay out of battles altogether if possible.  While the politburo does not intend to imply Enton acted in such a manner, if a mod is, in fact, involved in a battle or war, that mod must be extremely careful to not act biased in either rolling back damage or handing out bans or noting rule-breaking.  In the event of a mod abusing or misusing their authority in such a manner, they shall be banned from politics and wars and the politburo recommends that their mod privileges be immediately revoked.
+The politburo would also remind mods to exercise restraint in handing out bans for damage dealt during battles and for battles that take place outside of the rules of engagement.  While it is possible that such actions may be very serious, it is also in the spirit of the new rules to allow players to act in a way that they see as the most enjoyable.  In that light, the politburo discourages mods from long bans for mutually agreed upon griefings, etc.
+The politburo further reminds mods that wikibans are reserved for spammers and censors and are not themselves intended to be a means of censorship.  This is more important than ever given the new model of rules that encourages players to participate and engage with the mod community and through the wiki.
+Ruling sucks, fuck everyone who isnt me -shako